Tinnitus Forum Tyrants who discount, discredit, and abuse while firmly holding onto the false belief that there is ‘nothing you can do’ about tinnitus or that ‘you just have to learn to live with it,’ or who offer compassion solely based on the underlying assumption that tinnitus is incurable, such individuals do untold damage to our world, they even hold some personal accountability for unnecessary suicides as those stricken with tinnitus go through the process of panic and anxiety (often associated with Early Onset Cases or Recently Acquired Tinnitus).
Whether it is ego, pain, trauma, psychosis, or some other underlying reason, these “Tinnitus Forum Tyrants” manipulate forum visitors into a state of helplessness and victimization. They ignore facts, reason, as well as the science behind “getting better.” Instead of helping people cope with where they are now and helping them take steps towards well being, these tyrants function as toxic magnets of hopelessness, spreading a disease of dismay to all exposed to them. Is it that misery loves company? Why are they even there, and what can be done?”
What can be done about Tinnitus Forum Tyrants who spread dismay and misery and hopelessness?
If you encounter a Tinnitus Forum Tyrant, please feel free to post here. Some Tinnitus Forum Tyrants function as kind and compassionate…SOMETIMES…but if you happen to write something that gets their goat…WATCH OUT!
Would it make sense to expose the posts of Tinnitus Forum Tyrants here or would that just cause a lot of negativity and attack here at CureTinnitus.org?
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Kevin Hogan
"It's not unethical to say that it's incurable, it's just totally incorrect. In fact, if I go back and I look at the cases that I've worked on, and I've worked with thousands of people over a decade, and the vast majority, are either dramatically better, or their tinnitus is gone. One of the two."
...my tinnitus was gone
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Dr. Hans Greuel
"I can say in good conscience that tinnitus is curable. That's the bottom line: that tinnitus is curable, and I dare say, for just about everyone who comes down with it."
Please don't tell the ATA"As I may have mentioned earlier, ATA.org is incredibly mediocre (if that much!), compared to your organization. I even found the British T. site far superior to ATA.org and now, I have found you guys!!!"
--R. S. Illinois
(Honestly, we want to stay friends with the ATA and we cherish the work they do...so let's keep this one between us...)
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Paul Tobey
"It's such an incredibly low volume if I recognize it once a week it's just because I'm out in the backyard looking at the stars thanking the universe for what it has given to me, and I go 'how did I get to this point?" Oh yeah tinnitus helped me get here. Let's listen to it for a second, let's pay hommage to the tinnitus for a second and go thanks you did some good work. Thank you.
T is becoming less and less noticable"…with the help of this site, I am learning to deal with [edited] and my -T- is becoming less and less noticeable."
--B
You Are Truly An Insipration"I just want to add that you are truly an inspiration and I hope that more people find your website. I find your videos (and especially this one) to be enlightening, and it really gives me hope, and I’m sure others too. God bless."
--J
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"the information, research, support, and shows with dainis and julian are literally clearing the fog of the T i have endured for 20 years. it’s not about the ears it’s about the body and soul. i’m sure ancient wisdom had more answers to T than the entire medical community has at this time. this site is really quite groundbreaking."
--S
Mental Clarity And Calm
"A very simple thing - progress for me today was after work,instead of "rushing" home because of fatigue, I walked down another street and sat in the sun with a warm beverage. This resulted in some mental clarity and calm, as well a experiencing a choice of a positive new behavior. It felt expansive...'cause T can lead one to be hemmed in."
--Member s.
RE: Gone?
"After a short period of T-free happyness, my T (scale 4/10) came back for a few weeks (stressfull times, bought a house etc..). Did lots of relaxation exercises, stretching and yoga and now it's gone again (scale 1/10). I would like to ask Julian about the following [...edited...] Keep up the good work!!!"
--Member R.
Much Calmer About Tinnitus Now...
"When I started the programme shortly after developing T, I was terrified of tinnitus and felt that I had no control over it. I lay awake at night panicking that it would get worse. I am now much calmer about it, thanks largely to this site and Julian Cowan Hill's e-book which I strongly recommend. I am beginning to realise that my pace of life consistently exceeds my energy levels and that my T is probably connected to this. For me, T fluctuates a lot, but when I have a bad patch I comfort myself that it will probably lessen after a few days if I take better care of myself. I have only had a few minutes of total relief in the past five months, sometimes before going to sleep or early in the morning, but I'm aware that I have a long way to go in the personal wellbeing stakes, so it would be surprising if I were already better. The school holidays are a very busy time for me and the fact that I have got through them without a major tinnitus meltdown is itself encouraging. I shall be tuning in for the next show! Best wishes, D.H."
--Member D.H.
T subsided...
"After suffering from a catastrophic tinnitus for almost two years,it subsided in the last month to level 5 in a scale of 1-10 and sometimes even to level 2...My question is what will happen when I..."
--Member a.
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"information on T is settling in to my psyche, some underlying depression issues are being addressed, I'm getting on with life, taking care of myself better, and doing things I enjoy more. I have even recently shed a negative friend or 2...thank you"
--Member s.
Your site has helped IMMENSELY...
"I'm just 26 and enjoy loud music so was terrified when I thought my tinnitus was getting so bad that I'd hear it all the time. I went into a state where I kept monitoring it and thought that it had suddenly gotten really bad. This was about a week ago and coincided with a very stressful day so I suspected that had something to do with it. Your site has helped IMMENSELY in alleviating my concerns about it and now I'm pretty much totally over the fear that I'll have ringing in my ears my whole life. In fact, since a few hours after reading the information on your site, I've stopped noticing it at all, and I'm not worried about it when trying to sleep (I don't hear it during the day now because I'm not listening for it and I'm more relaxed so its quieter). Now that I'm proactively relaxing myself and trying to be happier in my life, the ringing has mostly subsided and I can only hear it when I put my fingers in my ears to create complete silence. From suicidal thoughts to complete peace in under 2 hours. Thank you again!!" PS: I even went to a Metallica concert last night and forgot to bring my earplugs -- and the tinnitus has not flared back
-Tegan Nejad: Perth, Australia
PPS From Dainis: Yes, we do have stories like these, though for some members, the process takes longer. In any case, it's enjoyable to come "out" from tinnitus and experience well being. Thanks Tegan for sharing :-)
Dainis: stop responding to the people on that website and forgive them their sins. They have absolutely NO idea what goes on here in this community with Julian’s counseling and your guidance. They are angry, disillusioned, upset people who are attacking this community without knowing anything about the help you both have given to people. We all habituate on our own (hopefully) but two things: 1. I think being part of this community helped that habituation process; and 2. the anxiety and fear associated with tinnitus can be truly eliminated by following Julian’s program and the shows. Please don’t post that website’s negative comments here at all. It was very upsetting to read and I would not want this community to be subjected to it. Let it go. And I would stop visiting and replying to anyone there. It’s crazy to do so. You can’t convince them with rationality. Just let them go their own angry way. We are the ones who are feeling better and therefore, SO much less angry at the world. So my answer is no, do not post the tyrants’ messages. Thanks.
Thanks for your comment. I have a bit of an “urge to expose,” where maybe I’d list the tags of some of the meanest tyrants I’ve come across…just to create some form of accountability for them…however, it is likely best to just leave them alone.
…it’s the desperate souls who may fall prey to such tyrants that I really feel for.
I agree… I don’t want to ready anymore negative stuff about Tinnitus.. I too felt it would be easier to jump off a bridge and when you are in a high state of anxiety and someone tells you it will never stop… you destroy all hope… and the tinnitus gets louder.
it’s just so awful, honestly. people who take on that role…in the end, we learn how to accept them as well…yet the saddest truth is that people have literally died, they’ve literally taken their own lives…based on the irresponsible, untested, and false statements made by such tyrants and mis-informed practitioners.
That’s how I felt when I left the Dr’s office recently.. I don’t know why I even bother going in there… totally discouraging… but not anymore! I feel empowered, too. I will turn my tinnitus off.
what a wonderful and powerful inner dedication…ahh…how pleasant!
Just got this via email, what a wonderful response:
“Appoint one or more forum moderators, establish criteria for expulsion, publish the criteria, moderate messages, issue one warning, then expel flamers & such.”
So, I’ve been mulling over the criteria and am working on a draft already…
I’m so very very glad that we don’t have tinnitus forum tyrants here, this is such a healthy, settled and pleasing “space” for folks healing from tinnitus. Thanks to all of you for your healthy energy, for your commitment to healing, and for your loving and continued support.
As tinnitus melts away, or starts “coming and going” for members, reading your responses, situations, questions, and stories…it’s just a real honor to be here…thanks!