Cure Tinnitus Show #22

Recorded on July 26th, 2010.

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suffering from tinnitus last over 10 yrs. had been suffering from irritability and depression further intrested for treatment possible

I just wanted to share the success I am having with tinnitus treating it with low level laser light therapy. It’s really something you should talk about on your site. It’s the only thing that has worked for me. My tinnitus has gone from a 7-8 to a very livable 1-3. The laser light stimulates the nerves to heal. In my case I have some hearing loss and it is getting better too. Are you familiar with Dr. Wilden’s work in Germany? His link is or and

I am having treatment locally at an acupuncurist. There are also home kits for sale.

I have emailed back and forth with a few of his patients and they have all had success as well.

Anyway- just wanted to share this. It may help many who are suffering from tinnitus.

I haven’t seen anything on here that mentions anything about curing tinnitus. I have one of the most severe cases my doctor has ever seen. It keeps getting louder and louder. It never has really distressed me to the point that I hear others talk about but it is louder, much louder than the world around me. I can’t even go to moderately loud places or be in crowds where many people are talking…even with good ear plugs in. They keep ringing louder despite protection/ear plugs. I think that my calmness about it is due to my Zen practice but it does prevent me from going many places and doing many things. It is that bad. I have other serious health problems and am flat broke so I am wondering if you have “scholarships” for people who do not have the money?

First of all, I can’t thank you enough! It really means a lot to me that you would understand my situation and help me out like this. I can assure you I will be involved 100% and I take this very seriously and am willing to do whatever it takes to make it go away, make me not pay attention to it… whatever!

Just let me know what to do from here… you said you had to set up my account, so please let me know when you get around to doing that.

As for my question, other then the obvious of, will it ever go away? can it be cured? I always wonder, what I have to do to make it worse. I am in the studio a lot and most of the time the music is at low volume… sometimes it gets loud but not drastically. It scares me to think that something I may be overlooking could make it worse. At concerts, will ear plugs do enough? I wear ear plugs at the movies also… Basically, I know what I can do to make it not get worse, but what will actually make it worse?

Also, I am a songwriter/producer from … [personal info withheld] …

Hi, I absolutely love your site and thank you for bringing Julian to light, he is incredible!
I have had very low tinnitus for 7 months, I was a reallly anxious person before tinnitus. Very fast to go into fight or flight. Never really took it seriously enough to change.
SO NOW I am freaked, scared and very nervous about tinnitus, mainly because I feel that it is out of my control.
I have watched many videos on the site.
I don’t; know if there is any special or specific video I should be watching?
I am also depressed over the tinnitus. Every where I go I can only focus on it.
On a brighter not , I have had days where It completely goes away.
BUT I did also have pretty bad health anxiety BEFORE the tinnitus, so I imagine tinnitus is like my nervous system imploding after at least 8 years of bad adrenaline fight or flight anxiety.

Not sure right now if you are a member or not, however, I really want to compliment you on your understanding of tinnitus, where you are with it, and how you got to where you are.

You “might” be the Jen B. client that recently came on board, not sure. If so, you are in good hands and with this site, Jen, and Julian, I am quite happy to participate in your progress. Glad to have you around!

Dig up the 4 main guidelines we talk about at, if you can’t find them let me know, and let’s keep talking about what helps you get better.

Best and good for you,
thank you so much, i appreciate your work so very much. thank you, just up tossing turning and anxious.
Hi Dainis,
How can I get over feeling very scared of tinnitus. every times I hear it I go into fight or flight. Causing a very bad cycle. can you recommend anything from your site?


With all the computer mess going on, I don’t have the right version, but as a member you get this eBook:


I’ll send you the newer version later, but the clenching and relaxing exercise on p. 32 is great.

Also, if you let
download completely (or download from one of these links)


…and at about minute 67, Julian takes me through an exercise that helps you when you are having problems falling asleep.

tinnitus is a huge wake up call . i was really a nervous anxious obsessive mess. tinnitus is saying to me that my body does not like living in that state although i got very addicted to it. adrenaline..
thanks soooooooo much,

Subject: Re: severely anxious over tinnitus

Yes, here is my suggestion: do your best to cuddle up, take good care of yourself, and read through Julian’s eBook. If you can, do the exercises…the better and worst list…the clenching and relaxing…the running commentary…these are very settling exercises that come from a therapist who healed himself.

Also, think about these four simple guidelines:

1) Relieving, happy, helpful body based therapy like CST or massage or…that settles you
2) Relieving, happy, loving mental/spiritual/emotional help like psychotherapy, counseling or other support work
3) Personal actions and inactions that feel great for you
4) Building a network of support around you, loving friends, good therapists, and hey…a pet or a neighbor’s pet?

So, if things get overwhelming…reach out for more help. This team is incredible:

Take things a step at a time…you may have a slow exit from tinnitus, a fast one, a spiky one with upheavals, we don’t know…but you’ve committed to helping yourself…you are here…you are asking for help and receiving it

Just email support, likely, won’t be enough in the long term…but once you apply all 4 guidelines in your life…you’ll literally be surrounded by loving caring support. And that can only feel good.

For motivation, check out the interviews at, in general, people wind up grateful for having had tinnitus. It is a great gift.

Peace and smiles from Vienna,
exactly right. you are doing very very well. what soothes you? also, do send me a question or summary of your situation for Monday’s show…


i really hope this works. when or if i join this(most likely when) that my tinnitus will go away. i would like to know how long it would take, like on average how long does it take, my tinnitus is brand new and i don’t want it to get worse since im still young and im sure that i will have alot of tragic emotional moments to make it worse when i get older. im thinking a little too much right now, just to draw the attention away from the noise, and its causing me to feel a little tense around the neck and shoulder area.

6 thoughts on “Cure Tinnitus Show #22

  1. Lisa

    I have had extremely bad anxiety for 8 years. I would go into fight or flight fear over psychosomatic illness. Now I woke up with tinnitus. I realize tinnitus is a teacher, and I am trying to learn from it. But find myself going into extreme fight or flight panic and fear over it, just because I feel as though it is out of my control.I am obviously doing the opposite of what tinnitus is trying to teach me. I know it my own nervous system I am hearing and I am still deathly afraid of it and want to run and hide as it scares me deeply.
    I am scared of living with this really feels like a tyrant.

  2. Lisa

    I also wanted to add that I have had days where I do not notice it at all. A few.
    Maybe I slept better or was generally more relaxed.
    I am a very nervous person to begin with.Or have been for 8 years since a traumatic experience in the ER for my first panic attack which came out of the blue.


  3. E


    Do you seen a relation in the fact that when I go out of bed, and stand up in the morning, the ear is more clicking when I swallow then when I do is in the evening? It also feels different in my ears when standing up…It does like when I lay down my T is harder.. I read Kevin Hogan, saying, when T is harder when laying down, go see an osteopath cause he sees that he can handle this kind of tinnitus. I can only think of the blood flow is different when I lay down How do you see this?

  4. lisa

    Having OCD tendencies also.. I notice that I very consciously LOOK for the and ye shall find. It’s like pink elephants. I can drive myself insane. wondering if I just psychosomatically created this to distract myself from other things in my life.
    thanks for answereing my question guys!


    1. Profile photo of dainisdainis Post author

      lisa: sounds very reasonable. i had an intense exchange with a member about a half a year ago, and we were like: “umm, we don’t have tinnitus, we have f-d up lives.”

      dealing with those life issues is what happens when you are on the path of liberation from tinnitus, and honestly, all of us can benefit from the wonderful help of professionals: why not?

      i mean, is there really a “benefit” to staying locked with all the issues, the trauma, the abuse, the decisions, the relationships…?

      at some point, it makes sense to unpack, unravel and relax.

      that’s why we recommend appropriate body-based therapy as well as appropriate and relaxing mental/emotional counseling or psychotherapy.

      let us know how things progress! 🙂

  5. Jack Parr

    Dissassociation and “The Tinnitus is trying to get you back into your body.” Bingo. That’s what I’m to work on – thanks Julien.

    Tinnitus flared up in the spring, but 7 Cranial Sacral Therapy sessions had knocked the level down to just noticing it while sleeping. Problem solved. I thought.

    Then two months ago Vertigo struck and a week later the Tinnitus came back even louder than before. Now I have 2 issues that are proving distracting. I’ve only listened to shows 22 to 25, do any of them deal with Vertigo along with Tinnitus??

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