Recorded on July 26th, 2010.
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suffering from tinnitus last over 10 yrs. had been suffering from irritability and depression further intrested for treatment possible
I just wanted to share the success I am having with tinnitus treating it with low level laser light therapy. It’s really something you should talk about on your site. It’s the only thing that has worked for me. My tinnitus has gone from a 7-8 to a very livable 1-3. The laser light stimulates the nerves to heal. In my case I have some hearing loss and it is getting better too. Are you familiar with Dr. Wilden’s work in Germany? His link is http://www.dr-wilden.de or http://www.dasgesundeohr.de and http://www.lumomed.de
I am having treatment locally at an acupuncurist. There are also home kits for sale.
I have emailed back and forth with a few of his patients and they have all had success as well.
Anyway- just wanted to share this. It may help many who are suffering from tinnitus.
I haven’t seen anything on here that mentions anything about curing tinnitus. I have one of the most severe cases my doctor has ever seen. It keeps getting louder and louder. It never has really distressed me to the point that I hear others talk about but it is louder, much louder than the world around me. I can’t even go to moderately loud places or be in crowds where many people are talking…even with good ear plugs in. They keep ringing louder despite protection/ear plugs. I think that my calmness about it is due to my Zen practice but it does prevent me from going many places and doing many things. It is that bad. I have other serious health problems and am flat broke so I am wondering if you have “scholarships” for people who do not have the money?
First of all, I can’t thank you enough! It really means a lot to me that you would understand my situation and help me out like this. I can assure you I will be involved 100% and I take this very seriously and am willing to do whatever it takes to make it go away, make me not pay attention to it… whatever!
Just let me know what to do from here… you said you had to set up my account, so please let me know when you get around to doing that.
As for my question, other then the obvious of, will it ever go away? can it be cured? I always wonder, what I have to do to make it worse. I am in the studio a lot and most of the time the music is at low volume… sometimes it gets loud but not drastically. It scares me to think that something I may be overlooking could make it worse. At concerts, will ear plugs do enough? I wear ear plugs at the movies also… Basically, I know what I can do to make it not get worse, but what will actually make it worse?
Also, I am a songwriter/producer from … [personal info withheld] …
Hi, I absolutely love your site and thank you for bringing Julian to light, he is incredible!
I have had very low tinnitus for 7 months, I was a reallly anxious person before tinnitus. Very fast to go into fight or flight. Never really took it seriously enough to change.
SO NOW I am freaked, scared and very nervous about tinnitus, mainly because I feel that it is out of my control.
I have watched many videos on the site.
I don’t; know if there is any special or specific video I should be watching?
I am also depressed over the tinnitus. Every where I go I can only focus on it.
On a brighter not , I have had days where It completely goes away.
BUT I did also have pretty bad health anxiety BEFORE the tinnitus, so I imagine tinnitus is like my nervous system imploding after at least 8 years of bad adrenaline fight or flight anxiety.MANY THANKS!
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Not sure right now if you are a member or not, however, I really want to compliment you on your understanding of tinnitus, where you are with it, and how you got to where you are.You “might” be the Jen B. client that recently came on board, not sure. If so, you are in good hands and with this site, Jen, and Julian, I am quite happy to participate in your progress. Glad to have you around!
Dig up the 4 main guidelines we talk about at CureTinnitus.org, if you can’t find them let me know, and let’s keep talking about what helps you get better.
Best and good for you,
Dainis
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thank you so much, i appreciate your work so very much. thank you, just up tossing turning and anxious.
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Hi Dainis,
How can I get over feeling very scared of tinnitus. every times I hear it I go into fight or flight. Causing a very bad cycle. can you recommend anything from your site?
—–Hi,
With all the computer mess going on, I don’t have the right version, but as a member you get this eBook:
LINK
I’ll send you the newer version later, but the clenching and relaxing exercise on p. 32 is great.
Also, if you let
http://www.curetinnitus.org/cu...s-show-19/
download completely (or download from one of these links)LINKS
…and at about minute 67, Julian takes me through an exercise that helps you when you are having problems falling asleep.
Best,
Dainis
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tinnitus is a huge wake up call . i was really a nervous anxious obsessive mess. tinnitus is saying to me that my body does not like living in that state although i got very addicted to it. adrenaline..
thanks soooooooo much,—–
Subject: Re: severely anxious over tinnitusYes, here is my suggestion: do your best to cuddle up, take good care of yourself, and read through Julian’s eBook. If you can, do the exercises…the better and worst list…the clenching and relaxing…the running commentary…these are very settling exercises that come from a therapist who healed himself.
Also, think about these four simple guidelines:
1) Relieving, happy, helpful body based therapy like CST or massage or…that settles you
2) Relieving, happy, loving mental/spiritual/emotional help like psychotherapy, counseling or other support work
3) Personal actions and inactions that feel great for you
4) Building a network of support around you, loving friends, good therapists, and hey…a pet or a neighbor’s pet?So, if things get overwhelming…reach out for more help. This team is incredible: http://www.thelisteningear.net.../
Take things a step at a time…you may have a slow exit from tinnitus, a fast one, a spiky one with upheavals, we don’t know…but you’ve committed to helping yourself…you are here…you are asking for help and receiving it
Just email support, likely, won’t be enough in the long term…but once you apply all 4 guidelines in your life…you’ll literally be surrounded by loving caring support. And that can only feel good.
For motivation, check out the interviews at CureTinnitus.org, in general, people wind up grateful for having had tinnitus. It is a great gift.
Peace and smiles from Vienna,
Dainis
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exactly right. you are doing very very well. what soothes you? also, do send me a question or summary of your situation for Monday’s show…sincerely,
Dainis
i really hope this works. when or if i join this(most likely when) that my tinnitus will go away. i would like to know how long it would take, like on average how long does it take, my tinnitus is brand new and i don’t want it to get worse since im still young and im sure that i will have alot of tragic emotional moments to make it worse when i get older. im thinking a little too much right now, just to draw the attention away from the noise, and its causing me to feel a little tense around the neck and shoulder area.
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--Bob M.
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Julian Cowan Hill R.C.S.T.
"If you really look after yourself and learn to get in touch with how you are feeling inside and learn to process that, that is the way out of tinnitus. Most people spend their whole lives running away from themselves, filling their lives with furious frantic activity, proving this, doing that. The best thing you can do is sit with yourself and notice how you are, how you are treating yourself. And if you can treat yourself with loving kindness and really accept how you are with a really wonderful, open-hearted, deep, caring approach, just like you would mother a baby, for example. If you can really look after yourself, your nervous system will change. Nothing is fixed. Everything is constantly changing and flowing, and it is entirely dependent on the way you approach yourself. Look after yourself, and your tinnitus will back off."
Wow, good stuff...“I REALLY appreciate your asking Julian about my questions this morning! You posed them in such a clear and dear way and protective of my ‘identity”. It is amazing that I was home and able to listen. I had over slept, (I am on vacation) had missed an early appointment for my car and so I called, cancelled it and looked on my computer and it was 8 minutes to the broadcast! Was I surprised, delighted and grateful to hear you both discuss the issues that are pressing me. I thank you. I also am taking your website and Julian’s advice and working on awareness of RED-ALERT and difficulty surrendering or relaxing into support. Wow, good stuff. Julian reminds me a bit of Ekhart Tolle. Doesn’t he you? And funny to say, you remind me of myself when you are questioning him! With gratitude”
-- L.G. Connecticut
I really feel you're going to make some peoples' lives millions of times better. I really do.
I would just like to say thank you for what you are doing. This world is really lacking people like you that aren't all about themselves. It really makes me pleased to see that you're getting your and Julian's ideas out there, and I really feel you're going to make some peoples' lives millions of times better. I really do.
--Samuel Diego-Cunha Wetzel, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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--Meta_4
Solid and needed work"Thank you and keep up your solid and needed work."
Eric G.
Saved my life...--B.
Kevin Hogan
"It's not unethical to say that it's incurable, it's just totally incorrect. In fact, if I go back and I look at the cases that I've worked on, and I've worked with thousands of people over a decade, and the vast majority, are either dramatically better, or their tinnitus is gone. One of the two."
...my tinnitus was gone
""It is not coincidence that I saw your e-mail this am, right at the time I realized my tinnitus was gone."--E. B. California
Dr. Hans Greuel
"I can say in good conscience that tinnitus is curable. That's the bottom line: that tinnitus is curable, and I dare say, for just about everyone who comes down with it."
Please don't tell the ATA"As I may have mentioned earlier, ATA.org is incredibly mediocre (if that much!), compared to your organization. I even found the British T. site far superior to ATA.org and now, I have found you guys!!!"
--R. S. Illinois
(Honestly, we want to stay friends with the ATA and we cherish the work they do...so let's keep this one between us...)
Great Conference Calls“…The conference calls are great as we can help each other”
--R
Paul Tobey
"It's such an incredibly low volume if I recognize it once a week it's just because I'm out in the backyard looking at the stars thanking the universe for what it has given to me, and I go 'how did I get to this point?" Oh yeah tinnitus helped me get here. Let's listen to it for a second, let's pay hommage to the tinnitus for a second and go thanks you did some good work. Thank you.
T is becoming less and less noticable"…with the help of this site, I am learning to deal with [edited] and my -T- is becoming less and less noticeable."
--B
You Are Truly An Insipration"I just want to add that you are truly an inspiration and I hope that more people find your website. I find your videos (and especially this one) to be enlightening, and it really gives me hope, and I’m sure others too. God bless."
--J
Literally clearing the fog from 20 years of T
"the information, research, support, and shows with dainis and julian are literally clearing the fog of the T i have endured for 20 years. it’s not about the ears it’s about the body and soul. i’m sure ancient wisdom had more answers to T than the entire medical community has at this time. this site is really quite groundbreaking."
--S
Mental Clarity And Calm
"A very simple thing - progress for me today was after work,instead of "rushing" home because of fatigue, I walked down another street and sat in the sun with a warm beverage. This resulted in some mental clarity and calm, as well a experiencing a choice of a positive new behavior. It felt expansive...'cause T can lead one to be hemmed in."
--Member s.
RE: Gone?
"After a short period of T-free happyness, my T (scale 4/10) came back for a few weeks (stressfull times, bought a house etc..). Did lots of relaxation exercises, stretching and yoga and now it's gone again (scale 1/10). I would like to ask Julian about the following [...edited...] Keep up the good work!!!"
--Member R.
Much Calmer About Tinnitus Now...
"When I started the programme shortly after developing T, I was terrified of tinnitus and felt that I had no control over it. I lay awake at night panicking that it would get worse. I am now much calmer about it, thanks largely to this site and Julian Cowan Hill's e-book which I strongly recommend. I am beginning to realise that my pace of life consistently exceeds my energy levels and that my T is probably connected to this. For me, T fluctuates a lot, but when I have a bad patch I comfort myself that it will probably lessen after a few days if I take better care of myself. I have only had a few minutes of total relief in the past five months, sometimes before going to sleep or early in the morning, but I'm aware that I have a long way to go in the personal wellbeing stakes, so it would be surprising if I were already better. The school holidays are a very busy time for me and the fact that I have got through them without a major tinnitus meltdown is itself encouraging. I shall be tuning in for the next show! Best wishes, D.H."
--Member D.H.
T subsided...
"After suffering from a catastrophic tinnitus for almost two years,it subsided in the last month to level 5 in a scale of 1-10 and sometimes even to level 2...My question is what will happen when I..."
--Member a.
Taking Better Care Of Myself
"information on T is settling in to my psyche, some underlying depression issues are being addressed, I'm getting on with life, taking care of myself better, and doing things I enjoy more. I have even recently shed a negative friend or 2...thank you"
--Member s.
Your site has helped IMMENSELY...
"I'm just 26 and enjoy loud music so was terrified when I thought my tinnitus was getting so bad that I'd hear it all the time. I went into a state where I kept monitoring it and thought that it had suddenly gotten really bad. This was about a week ago and coincided with a very stressful day so I suspected that had something to do with it. Your site has helped IMMENSELY in alleviating my concerns about it and now I'm pretty much totally over the fear that I'll have ringing in my ears my whole life. In fact, since a few hours after reading the information on your site, I've stopped noticing it at all, and I'm not worried about it when trying to sleep (I don't hear it during the day now because I'm not listening for it and I'm more relaxed so its quieter). Now that I'm proactively relaxing myself and trying to be happier in my life, the ringing has mostly subsided and I can only hear it when I put my fingers in my ears to create complete silence. From suicidal thoughts to complete peace in under 2 hours. Thank you again!!" PS: I even went to a Metallica concert last night and forgot to bring my earplugs -- and the tinnitus has not flared back
-Tegan Nejad: Perth, Australia
PPS From Dainis: Yes, we do have stories like these, though for some members, the process takes longer. In any case, it's enjoyable to come "out" from tinnitus and experience well being. Thanks Tegan for sharing :-)
I have had extremely bad anxiety for 8 years. I would go into fight or flight fear over psychosomatic illness. Now I woke up with tinnitus. I realize tinnitus is a teacher, and I am trying to learn from it. But find myself going into extreme fight or flight panic and fear over it, just because I feel as though it is out of my control.I am obviously doing the opposite of what tinnitus is trying to teach me. I know it my own nervous system I am hearing and I am still deathly afraid of it and want to run and hide as it scares me deeply.
I am scared of living with this forever.it really feels like a tyrant.
Help!
Lisa
I also wanted to add that I have had days where I do not notice it at all. A few.
Maybe I slept better or was generally more relaxed.
I am a very nervous person to begin with.Or have been for 8 years since a traumatic experience in the ER for my first panic attack which came out of the blue.
Lisa
Julian,
Do you seen a relation in the fact that when I go out of bed, and stand up in the morning, the ear is more clicking when I swallow then when I do is in the evening? It also feels different in my ears when standing up…It does like when I lay down my T is harder.. I read Kevin Hogan, saying, when T is harder when laying down, go see an osteopath cause he sees that he can handle this kind of tinnitus. I can only think of the blood flow is different when I lay down How do you see this?
Having OCD tendencies also.. I notice that I very consciously LOOK for the sound..seek and ye shall find. It’s like pink elephants. I can drive myself insane. wondering if I just psychosomatically created this to distract myself from other things in my life.
thanks for answereing my question guys!
lisa
lisa: sounds very reasonable. i had an intense exchange with a member about a half a year ago, and we were like: “umm, we don’t have tinnitus, we have f-d up lives.”
dealing with those life issues is what happens when you are on the path of liberation from tinnitus, and honestly, all of us can benefit from the wonderful help of professionals: why not?
i mean, is there really a “benefit” to staying locked with all the issues, the trauma, the abuse, the decisions, the relationships…?
at some point, it makes sense to unpack, unravel and relax.
that’s why we recommend appropriate body-based therapy as well as appropriate and relaxing mental/emotional counseling or psychotherapy.
let us know how things progress!
Dissassociation and “The Tinnitus is trying to get you back into your body.” Bingo. That’s what I’m to work on – thanks Julien.
Tinnitus flared up in the spring, but 7 Cranial Sacral Therapy sessions had knocked the level down to just noticing it while sleeping. Problem solved. I thought.
Then two months ago Vertigo struck and a week later the Tinnitus came back even louder than before. Now I have 2 issues that are proving distracting. I’ve only listened to shows 22 to 25, do any of them deal with Vertigo along with Tinnitus??