Cure Tinnitus Show Episode #15 was recorded Monday January 11, 2:00PM GMT (London Time). Thank you for your questions, participation, and for your kind feedback.
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Emailed Question (please post at the show link in the future…)
I do have a potential question or two for the next one:
1. Julian (or “Jules” 
) often talks about a personality type (“driven, focused, successful”) that he encounters in his practice and mentions that it is very typical for tinnitus sufferers. What about those who are not driven or focused, who lack motivation and have not been particularly successful in terms of their careers, who still suffer from tinnitus?
2. Julian often refers to “body work”. Is he mainly referring to cranio sacral therapy or is he including yoga, pilates, etc.?
I just wanted to thank you for another good discussion and know that it means so much to know you and Julian are there.
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LAUD you for your compassion and initiative...
"I really appreciate what you’ve put together. Truly comforting.…LAUD you for you compassion & initiative on this!"
--Bob M.
Appreciate it beyond words
"Delighted, appreciate it beyond words…"
Julian Cowan Hill R.C.S.T.
"If you really look after yourself and learn to get in touch with how you are feeling inside and learn to process that, that is the way out of tinnitus. Most people spend their whole lives running away from themselves, filling their lives with furious frantic activity, proving this, doing that. The best thing you can do is sit with yourself and notice how you are, how you are treating yourself. And if you can treat yourself with loving kindness and really accept how you are with a really wonderful, open-hearted, deep, caring approach, just like you would mother a baby, for example. If you can really look after yourself, your nervous system will change. Nothing is fixed. Everything is constantly changing and flowing, and it is entirely dependent on the way you approach yourself. Look after yourself, and your tinnitus will back off."
Wow, good stuff...“I REALLY appreciate your asking Julian about my questions this morning! You posed them in such a clear and dear way and protective of my ‘identity”. It is amazing that I was home and able to listen. I had over slept, (I am on vacation) had missed an early appointment for my car and so I called, cancelled it and looked on my computer and it was 8 minutes to the broadcast! Was I surprised, delighted and grateful to hear you both discuss the issues that are pressing me. I thank you. I also am taking your website and Julian’s advice and working on awareness of RED-ALERT and difficulty surrendering or relaxing into support. Wow, good stuff. Julian reminds me a bit of Ekhart Tolle. Doesn’t he you? And funny to say, you remind me of myself when you are questioning him! With gratitude”
-- L.G. Connecticut
I really feel you're going to make some peoples' lives millions of times better. I really do.
I would just like to say thank you for what you are doing. This world is really lacking people like you that aren't all about themselves. It really makes me pleased to see that you're getting your and Julian's ideas out there, and I really feel you're going to make some peoples' lives millions of times better. I really do.
--Samuel Diego-Cunha Wetzel, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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--Meta_4
Solid and needed work"Thank you and keep up your solid and needed work."
Eric G.
Saved my life...--B.
Kevin Hogan
"It's not unethical to say that it's incurable, it's just totally incorrect. In fact, if I go back and I look at the cases that I've worked on, and I've worked with thousands of people over a decade, and the vast majority, are either dramatically better, or their tinnitus is gone. One of the two."
...my tinnitus was gone
""It is not coincidence that I saw your e-mail this am, right at the time I realized my tinnitus was gone."--E. B. California
Dr. Hans Greuel
"I can say in good conscience that tinnitus is curable. That's the bottom line: that tinnitus is curable, and I dare say, for just about everyone who comes down with it."
Please don't tell the ATA"As I may have mentioned earlier, ATA.org is incredibly mediocre (if that much!), compared to your organization. I even found the British T. site far superior to ATA.org and now, I have found you guys!!!"
--R. S. Illinois
(Honestly, we want to stay friends with the ATA and we cherish the work they do...so let's keep this one between us...)
Great Conference Calls“…The conference calls are great as we can help each other”
--R
Paul Tobey
"It's such an incredibly low volume if I recognize it once a week it's just because I'm out in the backyard looking at the stars thanking the universe for what it has given to me, and I go 'how did I get to this point?" Oh yeah tinnitus helped me get here. Let's listen to it for a second, let's pay hommage to the tinnitus for a second and go thanks you did some good work. Thank you.
T is becoming less and less noticable"…with the help of this site, I am learning to deal with [edited] and my -T- is becoming less and less noticeable."
--B
You Are Truly An Insipration"I just want to add that you are truly an inspiration and I hope that more people find your website. I find your videos (and especially this one) to be enlightening, and it really gives me hope, and I’m sure others too. God bless."
--J
Literally clearing the fog from 20 years of T
"the information, research, support, and shows with dainis and julian are literally clearing the fog of the T i have endured for 20 years. it’s not about the ears it’s about the body and soul. i’m sure ancient wisdom had more answers to T than the entire medical community has at this time. this site is really quite groundbreaking."
--S
Mental Clarity And Calm
"A very simple thing - progress for me today was after work,instead of "rushing" home because of fatigue, I walked down another street and sat in the sun with a warm beverage. This resulted in some mental clarity and calm, as well a experiencing a choice of a positive new behavior. It felt expansive...'cause T can lead one to be hemmed in."
--Member s.
RE: Gone?
"After a short period of T-free happyness, my T (scale 4/10) came back for a few weeks (stressfull times, bought a house etc..). Did lots of relaxation exercises, stretching and yoga and now it's gone again (scale 1/10). I would like to ask Julian about the following [...edited...] Keep up the good work!!!"
--Member R.
Much Calmer About Tinnitus Now...
"When I started the programme shortly after developing T, I was terrified of tinnitus and felt that I had no control over it. I lay awake at night panicking that it would get worse. I am now much calmer about it, thanks largely to this site and Julian Cowan Hill's e-book which I strongly recommend. I am beginning to realise that my pace of life consistently exceeds my energy levels and that my T is probably connected to this. For me, T fluctuates a lot, but when I have a bad patch I comfort myself that it will probably lessen after a few days if I take better care of myself. I have only had a few minutes of total relief in the past five months, sometimes before going to sleep or early in the morning, but I'm aware that I have a long way to go in the personal wellbeing stakes, so it would be surprising if I were already better. The school holidays are a very busy time for me and the fact that I have got through them without a major tinnitus meltdown is itself encouraging. I shall be tuning in for the next show! Best wishes, D.H."
--Member D.H.
T subsided...
"After suffering from a catastrophic tinnitus for almost two years,it subsided in the last month to level 5 in a scale of 1-10 and sometimes even to level 2...My question is what will happen when I..."
--Member a.
Taking Better Care Of Myself
"information on T is settling in to my psyche, some underlying depression issues are being addressed, I'm getting on with life, taking care of myself better, and doing things I enjoy more. I have even recently shed a negative friend or 2...thank you"
--Member s.
Your site has helped IMMENSELY...
"I'm just 26 and enjoy loud music so was terrified when I thought my tinnitus was getting so bad that I'd hear it all the time. I went into a state where I kept monitoring it and thought that it had suddenly gotten really bad. This was about a week ago and coincided with a very stressful day so I suspected that had something to do with it. Your site has helped IMMENSELY in alleviating my concerns about it and now I'm pretty much totally over the fear that I'll have ringing in my ears my whole life. In fact, since a few hours after reading the information on your site, I've stopped noticing it at all, and I'm not worried about it when trying to sleep (I don't hear it during the day now because I'm not listening for it and I'm more relaxed so its quieter). Now that I'm proactively relaxing myself and trying to be happier in my life, the ringing has mostly subsided and I can only hear it when I put my fingers in my ears to create complete silence. From suicidal thoughts to complete peace in under 2 hours. Thank you again!!" PS: I even went to a Metallica concert last night and forgot to bring my earplugs -- and the tinnitus has not flared back
-Tegan Nejad: Perth, Australia
PPS From Dainis: Yes, we do have stories like these, though for some members, the process takes longer. In any case, it's enjoyable to come "out" from tinnitus and experience well being. Thanks Tegan for sharing :-)
Could you really talk into depth about the difference between overwhelm, fight, flight and the freezing response? What exactly is well-being? How do you experience these states? What you can do if you are in one of them? How does it go? Do you go from freezing via fight or flight to well-being or do you go directly to well-being?
Thanks for the discussion! I really like the video’s. They mean a lot to me.
Got this in today:
I enjoyed reading Julian’s book yesterday and appreciated the voice of experience and good advice…..am also enjoying your videos… a question I would have for him relates to the ‘cycles’ Jack Vernon mentions for many tinnitus sufferers, from good to worse, often triggering during the night (low blood sugar?, low pillow elevation?), …I’ve talked with a couple of neurologists, no meaningful answer…..objective of course to make the good part of the cycle last longer! I hope this question might also be of interest/value to other members.
Yes, my tinnitus has been on a three-day ‘cycle’ for 18-months, originally from a whiplash-type injury.I remember reading a response to a question to Jack Vernon, who I think said that many people have a cyclical type,may go from ,say, a relatively good state to worse during the night for an as yet’unknown’ reason(I think you Brits, Julian, call this ‘the morning roar’?!). No doubt some of our other members share this type and I wondered if you could kindly relate the experience you’ve had with your clients, Julian,on dealing with it…….I’ve also heard it may be related to lower blood suger at night and that an elevated pillow could help….have not worked in my case. I do think that the approaches described in your book can be profoundly helpful and thank you and Dainis for making it available.
Today I read something interesting in the book of John E. Sarno, The Divided Mind, the epidemic of Mindbody Disorders.
He writes:
Tinnitus and Vertigo.
Both of these conditions may be signs of disorders of the nerves or the ears, but they are mostly commonly benign and psychosomatic.
He thinks they are activated by what he calls the autonomic-peptide system. He sees the same character traits for most psychosomatic illnesses: people that are conscientious, hardworking, very responsible, often perfectionistic and a ‘goodist’ tendency.
He thinks the symptoms are there because their purpose is to divert attention from unconscious emotional phenomena. If patients denigrate the physical symptom and instea focus on things psychological, they have effectively undermined the unconscious brain’s strategy.
Please comment.
Question for the next show: Recently, there was some research (found on MedPage Today.com) suggesting that tinnitus “…may be caused by maladaptive auditory cortex reorganization.”…”In this situation, neurons in the auditory cortex are deprived of normal electrical input because of hearing loss.” [Note: This pertains ONLY to people who have hearing loss but there are many who have tinnitus who have NO hearing loss!] The article continues…”Yet the neurons don’t become inactive. Instead, they are “rewired” so that they are no longer excited by the frequencies they were originally tuned to. They do, however, become sensitive to neighboring frequencies. That synchronized spontaneous neural activity may lead to tinnitus.
Previous research has shown that this kind of cortical reorganization can be modified by behavioral training….So the researchers attempted to reduce the loudness of patients’ tinnitus by exposing them to music of their choice that was modified, or “notched,” to contain no energy in the same frequency range as the patient’s tinnitus. The idea behind this therapy is that the notched music doesn’t stimulate the cortical area corresponding to the tinnitus frequency, but it still excites surrounding neurons. Therefore, the neurons that aren’t stimulated are suppressed via lateral inhibitory inputs originating from surrounding neurons.”
SO: this is long but the question I have is: if this research is pointing in the right direction – maladaptive auditory cortex reorganization – where does that leave the “psychological” explanation/ treatment? Personally, your videos and website have done wonders for me, pointing to a HUGE psychological component. And yet……there is this scientific stuff. Any thoughts? Thanks.
Egg Shells:
Often, after making some progress with relaxation and allowing the tinnitus to settle a bit, I will find myself getting very anxious about what might happen to set me back, to cause me to lose the progress I’ve made — I feel like I’m walking on egg shells a bit, just waiting for the other shoe to drop. Seemingly inevitably, I will do something or something will happen to aggravate the tinnitus. For instance, in a yoga class, I might begin to relax and the tinnitus will back off. The instructor might introduce a more challenging pose. Then, I begin to say to myself: “I’m good now. The tinnitus has backed off. But, if I try this tough pose, it might be too stressful and set off the tinnitus etc etc.” Then comes anxiety about the pose, and then, no surprise, the tinnitus flares, no doubt, not because of the pose, but because of the anxiety.
I am wondering what Julian might suggest for getting through this inbetween period where you’re making some progress, but the progress seems hard to hold on to. Then, anxiety develops regarding maintaining gains.
Hi Julian,
Just some things about the ear(And yes, I know it’s not an Ear-Based problem;-))..)
- Is the pressure on the ears normal for tinnitus sufferers? Can you tell something about this? Is it stress?
- The clicking in the ear when you swallow, is that normal? I had a stress period earlier(without tinnitus and I remember well that in that period I had a sensitive hearing and I always felt my ears) So what I think is that the pressure is maybe stress? What you call ‘ the living in the head’ ? What can you say about this?
Are these things familiar with the clients you worked with?
Hello Julian,
I have 2 questions. My T was awakened in a period of long hours working in the catering Industry, because I lost my job as a Real Estate Broker due to the credit crunch, drinking a lot of alcohol after work because I wasn
Many thanks Dainis and Julian for an excellent show and all the helpful comments.
Richard.
Thank you both for this exceptional show. My determination is strong…it has kept me stuck and now is helping me with healing. I temper it often. (ex: I’ll get well if it kills me!!) now-I am seeking well being and will continue this path on a daily basis as it is never ending.
I have found the book Julian mentioned, Waking the Tiger extremely helpful and have also ordered online, Dr. Hans G’s cd’s in english. I look forward to recieving them in the mail.
For me, it’s taking time for the information and wisdom from this site, which rang true from the get go, to sink into my mind.Old thought patterns and belief systems have been with me for a long time. (generational actually) Because of my detrermination and desire for change, the T etc … has been lifting significantly since I joined this site.
This last year has been full of changes,death, reinvention,sometimes exciting, doubt-ridden, lonely at times – but compared to vibrating in the “deep freeze” on the couch in front of the tv ,wondering what the hell was happening to me…this part of my life is precious.
When I look back on my life events, The T alarm bell saved me and compelled me to face the truth, change, and move forward. Unfortunately no one (dr.or layman) could explain this PTSD response. I’ve lived long enough to get here. With the proper help and information I hope any members curetinnitusland can become unstuck sooner.
The Wienerwald awaits. I wonder if Dainis could sneak a sapling there for me?
Thank you for an extremely informative and encouraging session! Key element for me was the discussion about being “stuck” inside one’s own mind and the need to re-connect with the body. It’s probably so common among tinnitus sufferers to not have had the experience of just “being” at peace in the moment (e.g., relaxing/reading/ socializing without the constant hum of discord, anxiety and worry coursing through one’s mind simultaneously). Thank you, as always, for great insights.