Dear CureTinnitus.org Community,
The 14th Cure Tinnitus Show took place on Monday, Nov 23d, 2009 at 2PM GMT (London Time). Your questions, comments, input, and suggestions for topics helped guide us to a settling and helpful show. Thank you!
Best,
Julian and Dainis
Here is a YouTube excerpt for folks just getting to know us, the archived show is available for members below…
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LAUD you for your compassion and initiative...
"I really appreciate what you’ve put together. Truly comforting.…LAUD you for you compassion & initiative on this!"
--Bob M.
Appreciate it beyond words
"Delighted, appreciate it beyond words…"
Julian Cowan Hill R.C.S.T.
"If you really look after yourself and learn to get in touch with how you are feeling inside and learn to process that, that is the way out of tinnitus. Most people spend their whole lives running away from themselves, filling their lives with furious frantic activity, proving this, doing that. The best thing you can do is sit with yourself and notice how you are, how you are treating yourself. And if you can treat yourself with loving kindness and really accept how you are with a really wonderful, open-hearted, deep, caring approach, just like you would mother a baby, for example. If you can really look after yourself, your nervous system will change. Nothing is fixed. Everything is constantly changing and flowing, and it is entirely dependent on the way you approach yourself. Look after yourself, and your tinnitus will back off."
Wow, good stuff...“I REALLY appreciate your asking Julian about my questions this morning! You posed them in such a clear and dear way and protective of my ‘identity”. It is amazing that I was home and able to listen. I had over slept, (I am on vacation) had missed an early appointment for my car and so I called, cancelled it and looked on my computer and it was 8 minutes to the broadcast! Was I surprised, delighted and grateful to hear you both discuss the issues that are pressing me. I thank you. I also am taking your website and Julian’s advice and working on awareness of RED-ALERT and difficulty surrendering or relaxing into support. Wow, good stuff. Julian reminds me a bit of Ekhart Tolle. Doesn’t he you? And funny to say, you remind me of myself when you are questioning him! With gratitude”
-- L.G. Connecticut
I really feel you're going to make some peoples' lives millions of times better. I really do.
I would just like to say thank you for what you are doing. This world is really lacking people like you that aren't all about themselves. It really makes me pleased to see that you're getting your and Julian's ideas out there, and I really feel you're going to make some peoples' lives millions of times better. I really do.
--Samuel Diego-Cunha Wetzel, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Already Recommended 2 Friends..."What a great site….Thanks so much! I already referred the Yahoo forums tinnitus group to your site and also 2 friends with tinnitus."
--Meta_4
Solid and needed work"Thank you and keep up your solid and needed work."
Eric G.
Saved my life...--B.
Kevin Hogan
"It's not unethical to say that it's incurable, it's just totally incorrect. In fact, if I go back and I look at the cases that I've worked on, and I've worked with thousands of people over a decade, and the vast majority, are either dramatically better, or their tinnitus is gone. One of the two."
...my tinnitus was gone
""It is not coincidence that I saw your e-mail this am, right at the time I realized my tinnitus was gone."--E. B. California
Dr. Hans Greuel
"I can say in good conscience that tinnitus is curable. That's the bottom line: that tinnitus is curable, and I dare say, for just about everyone who comes down with it."
Please don't tell the ATA"As I may have mentioned earlier, ATA.org is incredibly mediocre (if that much!), compared to your organization. I even found the British T. site far superior to ATA.org and now, I have found you guys!!!"
--R. S. Illinois
(Honestly, we want to stay friends with the ATA and we cherish the work they do...so let's keep this one between us...)
Great Conference Calls“…The conference calls are great as we can help each other”
--R
Paul Tobey
"It's such an incredibly low volume if I recognize it once a week it's just because I'm out in the backyard looking at the stars thanking the universe for what it has given to me, and I go 'how did I get to this point?" Oh yeah tinnitus helped me get here. Let's listen to it for a second, let's pay hommage to the tinnitus for a second and go thanks you did some good work. Thank you.
T is becoming less and less noticable"…with the help of this site, I am learning to deal with [edited] and my -T- is becoming less and less noticeable."
--B
You Are Truly An Insipration"I just want to add that you are truly an inspiration and I hope that more people find your website. I find your videos (and especially this one) to be enlightening, and it really gives me hope, and I’m sure others too. God bless."
--J
Literally clearing the fog from 20 years of T
"the information, research, support, and shows with dainis and julian are literally clearing the fog of the T i have endured for 20 years. it’s not about the ears it’s about the body and soul. i’m sure ancient wisdom had more answers to T than the entire medical community has at this time. this site is really quite groundbreaking."
--S
Mental Clarity And Calm
"A very simple thing - progress for me today was after work,instead of "rushing" home because of fatigue, I walked down another street and sat in the sun with a warm beverage. This resulted in some mental clarity and calm, as well a experiencing a choice of a positive new behavior. It felt expansive...'cause T can lead one to be hemmed in."
--Member s.
RE: Gone?
"After a short period of T-free happyness, my T (scale 4/10) came back for a few weeks (stressfull times, bought a house etc..). Did lots of relaxation exercises, stretching and yoga and now it's gone again (scale 1/10). I would like to ask Julian about the following [...edited...] Keep up the good work!!!"
--Member R.
Much Calmer About Tinnitus Now...
"When I started the programme shortly after developing T, I was terrified of tinnitus and felt that I had no control over it. I lay awake at night panicking that it would get worse. I am now much calmer about it, thanks largely to this site and Julian Cowan Hill's e-book which I strongly recommend. I am beginning to realise that my pace of life consistently exceeds my energy levels and that my T is probably connected to this. For me, T fluctuates a lot, but when I have a bad patch I comfort myself that it will probably lessen after a few days if I take better care of myself. I have only had a few minutes of total relief in the past five months, sometimes before going to sleep or early in the morning, but I'm aware that I have a long way to go in the personal wellbeing stakes, so it would be surprising if I were already better. The school holidays are a very busy time for me and the fact that I have got through them without a major tinnitus meltdown is itself encouraging. I shall be tuning in for the next show! Best wishes, D.H."
--Member D.H.
T subsided...
"After suffering from a catastrophic tinnitus for almost two years,it subsided in the last month to level 5 in a scale of 1-10 and sometimes even to level 2...My question is what will happen when I..."
--Member a.
Taking Better Care Of Myself
"information on T is settling in to my psyche, some underlying depression issues are being addressed, I'm getting on with life, taking care of myself better, and doing things I enjoy more. I have even recently shed a negative friend or 2...thank you"
--Member s.
Your site has helped IMMENSELY...
"I'm just 26 and enjoy loud music so was terrified when I thought my tinnitus was getting so bad that I'd hear it all the time. I went into a state where I kept monitoring it and thought that it had suddenly gotten really bad. This was about a week ago and coincided with a very stressful day so I suspected that had something to do with it. Your site has helped IMMENSELY in alleviating my concerns about it and now I'm pretty much totally over the fear that I'll have ringing in my ears my whole life. In fact, since a few hours after reading the information on your site, I've stopped noticing it at all, and I'm not worried about it when trying to sleep (I don't hear it during the day now because I'm not listening for it and I'm more relaxed so its quieter). Now that I'm proactively relaxing myself and trying to be happier in my life, the ringing has mostly subsided and I can only hear it when I put my fingers in my ears to create complete silence. From suicidal thoughts to complete peace in under 2 hours. Thank you again!!" PS: I even went to a Metallica concert last night and forgot to bring my earplugs -- and the tinnitus has not flared back
-Tegan Nejad: Perth, Australia
PPS From Dainis: Yes, we do have stories like these, though for some members, the process takes longer. In any case, it's enjoyable to come "out" from tinnitus and experience well being. Thanks Tegan for sharing :-)
Hi,
I just wanted to say that I am reading the book Julian mentioned in his book – Waking the Tiger. It’s a positive and enlightening read. Thanks…another piece of the puzzle.
s.
Sometimes, you hear of a person who has some sort of break-through moment, and the tinnitus vanishes as quickly as it came. It is hard not to seek such a “moment.” However, from reading Julian’s book, it strikes me, that this is frequently not how things happen (in fact, I remember him saying that often while one is processing his or her issues that the tinnitus might even get or seem worse as we confront ourselves, even in our “negative” aspects. And I wonder if there can be some danger in thinking in terms of the one “cathartic” experience that will cause the tinnitus to flee all at once. It seems that you can really set yourself up for the saboteur: “I did ‘x’ and and the tinnitus isn’t better; so now things must be hopeless!” Or, I find that it can be really easy to always be checking the tinnitus. If you check and find things the tinnitus hasn’t changed or is maybe even a little worse, this is fertile soil for the sabatoer! So, I am wondering what Julian’s experience was with letting go. It strikes me that it was more long and gradual rather than the “breakthrough-then-tinnitus-goes experience.
Secondly — and related — I sometimes get confused between checking the tinnitus and looking at it as a teacher. Perhaps I am still too early in the process to think in terms of “tinnitus as teacher”, but I have the sense that it is not good to be always checking the tinnitus — as if one were constantly asking a teacher “I am doing this right” “I am doing that right…” Yet, obviously, to learn from a teacher, you’ve got to listen to it. So I am wondering if Julian can speak a little to the difference between “checking,” which I find tends to lead to anxiety and is generally negative, and consulting a teacher, which should be a positive thing.
Final question, has Julian found that there are any negatives to doing TRT — other than the financial hit that you take!
hello T….fortunately i had some breakthrhough moments during TRT-unfortunately i wasn’t aware how it happened, except that i suppose the TRT believed what she was telling me(it was all believable to me also)she had seen many people recover and / or move on. there is an element of blind faith involved. you WILL also improve and more as you are in the right place…it takes time to for all the information and new conciousness to “sink in – and continue with the well being that jules talks about. i have also found cranio sacral sessions to realease that old and dreary and i must say life treatening at the time – drama energy from my body.
after 20 years of T things i can truly say i am moving up and out-really. i couldn’t have said these words with conviction 4 months ago.
keep well,
s
at times through my healing from T i have noticed quite an internal reisitance to the process. it’s that negative voice saying “this won’t work, don’t get your hopes up…”
as i am felling relief and healing is actually happening the resistance is much less and i can counter it-T is so much like that expression “better the devil you know, tha the devil you don’t”.
can you comment….thank you both
ps-where do you plant the “liberation” trees? whay type of tree is it? although i’m not focused on my liberation tree, it recently crossed my mind.
just curious.
s
Does Julian have any thoughts about the use of short-acting benzos such as Ativan which I am taking and work very well to bring the level of tinnitus way down and about withdrawal syndrome from long term use of benzos? I had been on a long-acting benzo, Klonopin, prior to this for 15 YEARS. I was weaned off that last year and put on Ativan 1 mg. 2-3 times a day or as needed for anxiety. I guess my question is: I read somewhere that WITHDRAWAL from long term use of a benzo like Klonopin can contribute to tinnitus formation/ activation. Do you agree? What about switching to a short-acting benzo (Ativan) that is working quite well to quell the tinnitus, so much so that I want to stay on it long term.
Hi S! This is T from above. Just want to say thanks for your thoughts. Sounds like you had a positive experience with TRT. How long ago did you do it? Sounds as well like you’ve made a lot of progress in past 4 months! I am truly happy for you! It’s not an easy question, but to what do you most attribute this change?
Thanks again!
tf
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As much as I would like say that I am, I am not really doing the CTO program. I have no job, no health insurance, my spouse is also unemployed. I’m educated, very smart, and I hate my under-paying under-stimulating job.
I don’t WANT to work in an office at a desk 9-5 in a boring job. I hate it. I’ve always hated it AND HATED MYSELF for not being able to focus on a REAL CAREER that would have been intellectually stimulating and enjoyable.
I have a Master’s Degree in X, but never did anything with it
I have an anxiety disorder
I have OCD
I am fearful of starting over in a new job
I got laid off from a prestigious place
But I am not all about my illness. I have a lot of strength too. I have the help of
a good cognitive behavioral therapist, though I have not allowed myself the full program of body and mental therapy, partially due to financial restrictions.
I’m hearing a high pitched squealing as I sit here writing to you but although I am “aware” of it I can push it aside and continue writing to you. For me, it was the PURE REASSURANCE and COMFORT of listening to you and Julian talk about T that helped me. I felt so relaxed and “safe” after a few of the shows, knew I wasn’t alone, knew it wouldn’t kill me, knew it would probably go away after a while.
hello tf,
it took over a year or so of TRT to really have a breakthrough. now i was seeing the audiologist about every 3 months for 30 min. also there were periods of time i had to cancel appts. due to work or travel. luckily i had a very good prof. relationship with her.
she believed in me and my ability to “heal”. it took me weeks to actually listen to the nightime background nature sounds as i had resistance. the TRT theory rang true to me from the beginning. so, i had a couple of days of clarity-a window to what could be. this is as far as it went with TRT-unfortunately i had a very sad few years with my beloved mother at the end of her life. i was her primary caregiver(the best and worst years of my life,and the most loving and deeply meaningful in my life)need less to say TRT was again on the back burner. about 6 months after her passing i came upon this website and was in the right place and time to continue with healing.
for me TRT brought me to a small clearing in the forest- i hung onto it. for me the more info the better and this website offers sound advice and wisdom from those that have healed or or on their way. i have been around a block or 2 with meds-there is no pill that i am aware of that cures tinnitus-BUT they have been a most helpful tool .
TRT can’t hurt-it helped me-but keep in mind the life long program of well-being stuff.(also lose any recreational drugs or excessive drinking from your life if you need to) TRT was my stepping stone to this site.
i hope this helps… s
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Thank you Tari, you can help, not sure if you’re a member. You can join us if you like, you can talk about your experience online and at social media sites, etc. Best to you and let us know what’s working for you. Let us know what has been helping you with your T.
Great show…thanks you guys! Great questions and really great answers!
hasta luego!
thnx, we just recorded show #26 talked about how wonderful it is that our body of work is helping and that members are watching and learning from past shows…