I’ve decided to create a post where people can submit comments of dissatisfaction with CureTinnitus.org. Also, when I receive an angry, frustrated, or otherwise negative email, I plan to post them (anonymously for the email sender) here.
That way, I can respond publicly to common fears about curetinnitus.org being a scam.
Here’s an angry email I recently received from a member who, I think, recently canceled membership. I’ve also added my replies:
Why am I not able to see the video show with the Jennifer?
–It’s possible that you are not viewing the link while logged in. You can log in under Member Control Panel at the home page http://www.curetinnitus.org/ or here: http://www.curetinnitus.org/community/wp-login.php
You have promised to interview her on tinnitus show 19 and you have changed your mind.
–This phenomenon is called “projection.” You are telling me that I changed my mind, even though I have not. You are not checking whether I’ve changed my mind, you are telling me that it is so. Not only did I not “change my mind,” but the interview took place 11 days ago on May 19th, 2010, and I sent two emails to the community to let everyone know (and there is actually a nice member discussion going on over there). The link is here: http://www.curetinnitus.org/interview-with-jennifer-battaglino-lcsw-cht-tinnitus-therapist/
Let me remind you that you have promised Jennifer or another interviewee in one of previous shows a long time ago and you cancelled it.
–Yes, and I fulfilled my promise. Again, you are telling me that I canceled something that I did not. This is a psychological error in logic. I hope you work on your projections, so that you can be on solid ground in your communications with others and yourself. The interview was delayed with good reason, reasons that make your comments insulting to me.
Julian (although he is good and reassuring)is talking about specific peripherial questions which may not concern some of your subscribers.
–Again, you say that Julian is talking about specific peripheral questions. Are you right about that? These “definitions of is” without checking lead people to serious difficulties in their relationships and their lives. I’m glad I know that now, and I hope you can come to realize that you are using a logically flawed structure that does not serve you well. It does not bring you to health, well being, or greater understanding of self or others. Frankly, it creates pain. We are currently testing the hypothesis at CureTinnitus.org, that member relief is directly proportional to their application of our 4 main guidelines for tinnitus treatment. How are you doing with those? If your email to me has this many false projections stated as truth, I suggest you address these issues with your psychotherapist or mental health professional. If your psychotherapist can’t help you come to a more clear understanding of logic and sound communication with yourself and others, you might consider interviewing some other psychotherapists.
In general,since we know that tinnitus is a multidisciplinary problem,-you have to bring as many intrviewees as possible.
–I find you telling me what I “have to” do pretty rude. We have, I think, 5 or so expert interviews at this time. That’s a lot. I’m more than happy to have you interview tinnitus professionals and would consider posting your interviews at CureTinnitus.org. Also, you can nominate health practitioners to be interviewed, which is how we wound up connecting with Jennifer Battigliano. Maybe try making a suggestion as to whom you would like us to interview? Can you see how that would serve both of us, and the CureTinnitus.org community…much better?
If you really want to help people you have to search thoroughly for interviewees from the whole spectrum such as TRT,cognitive behavioral therapists,Kevin Hogan,nutritionists etc.
–Do you have any idea how much time, effort, and money I’ve put into this site? Also, I suggest you try asking before complaining. We have a lot of that kind of information available, and ahh…now I know where the “rub” is here. You are saying “if you really wanted to help people, you have to.” Again, that falls under something called a projection, and actually, if falls under what Patricia Evans, author of “The Verbally Abusive Relationship” defines as abuse. I strongly suggest you check out this website: http://www.verbalabuse.com/ and begin to remove verbal abuse from your communication.
The reason your words are abusive, is because I DO REALLY WANT TO HELP PEOPLE, and I have interviewed the types of people you are talking about, I’ve reached out to them as well, I’ve gotten in touch with every national tinnitus association in the world…I mean honestly…I find you saying “If you really wanted to help people,” incredibly rude.
Instead you send us links to a nutritional program which costs a lot of money (and most probably you get a commission from them).To tell you the truth,this project may have started as a “helping community” without a profit, BUT now it seems that it is organized completely like a “greedy” company.
–Our program is based on giving you a month in advance, you only pay if you are happy. If you aren’t happy, cancel and don’t pay. That is the least greedy structure I could come up with. I dedicated so much of my life money blood tears and sweat into creating CureTinnitus.org that your response has me feeling very angry. Greedy? Really? I am very sorry you see us that way, but I cannot help it. If you wanted to know more of the “backstory” about CureTinnitus.org, you could find out. But greed is the last thing on my mind, and I’ve lived on almost “unlivably” low income for over a year to get CureTinnitus.org up and running. That program is a few hundred bucks, and I made it clear that I receive a commission from sales…it’s right there in the email and under the advertisement. Also, the INFORMATION in that program is amazing, outstanding, and totally worth every penny. I am already saving members tens of thousands of dollars by providing CureTinnitus.org in the form it is in…is that not enough for you?
I am more than sorry uttering this so bluntly but we are dealing here with human health.
–I find it unfortunate that you describe your words as “blunt,” when they contain projection, false assumptions, and verbal abuse.
People are suffering so at least give them sense of dignity.
–You want me to give people a sense of dignity, because people are suffering? My response to that is: I take on a tremendous amount of responsibility and risk with this website. I feel that everything I do gives people who learn from me or purchase my products a “sense of dignity,” yet I also know that peoples’ sense of themselves is a deeply personal thing that I can hope to impact, but cannot expect to be able to. Yes, people are suffering, and I recognize that you are suffering as well, and I feel tortured by the locked logic in your email to me. It’s incredibly difficult to read so many projections and false assumptions phrased as accusations. It would be much easier, if you would just make a request, you know? I mean…just ask where the info might be…or nominate a health care practitioner…or ask how to log in properly.
…if you are unhappy…just cancel your membership
…if you’d like something in particular…just ask…
…if you can’t find something…just ask…
…we are in this together and CureTinnitus.org is here to help. If you expect to get well from tinnitus without spending money on your own therapy, learning, or growth, then I personally don’t feel you’ll be very effective…but good luck to you!
October 21, 2011, during the release of CureTinnitus.org 3.0
hey,i just wanted to get in touch and say that i really appreciate your subscription to thecuretinnitus.org newsletter. this is a mass email, so some of you are members.the last few months have been amazingly stressful for me, and well, i’m to the point where tinnitus is no longer a concern for me, where i am facing real life issues that well — i’ll talk about later. but only in private and only with members.the cure tinnitus show #28 is coming up, and our newly revamped site is currently being uploaded by an expensive expert.some of you know how much of a labor of love curetinnitus.org has been for me, how i’ve invested way more than i’ve gained financially. others may still see curetinnitus.org as a site that’s out to get money.
well, it’s not such a site, and the information has been an amazing part of many peoples’ “dealing and healing.”
i’m still getting all the systems running and if you are on this list, you will be getting a bunch of gifts and a special offer over the next few days.
after long contemplation and meditation, the cost of curetinnitus.org (not for current members of course) will be $497 to join and $37 per month for self paced, and $997 to join and $97 per month for guided support. our process, our materials, our research, our team, we deserve it and the site simply cannot function without adequate financial support.
we cannot help you if we do not receive financial compensation to exeed our costs, and i, dainis w michel, can’t keep funding and funding and funding curetinnitus.org while actually receiving gobs of criticism for even asking for money online.
anyway, again, even if you don’t join, or are a current member, the next few days will be magical, because i’ll remind you of things available at the site, or you’ll receive gifts of articles videos and such.
if you are a member, then consider this a solid, positive, and friendly reminder to make sure you have all of the 4 curetinnitus.org program guidelines in place in your life.
you will have the opportunity, if you have not joined yet, to join at the “old prices,” which basically, don’t have that initial larger amount to start.
people do not like to “save money” when dealing with their health. i think that makes a lot of sense. i am firmly against a “profit based” health system, especially when there are no rewards for creating effective inexpensive solutions to health issues.
anyway, stay tuned for some wonderful reminders, great free resources, and a special opportunity to save some money on membership.
here to help,
dainis w michel
please: unsubscribe if you don’t want to hear from me or curetinnitus.org anymore. i totally understand, ok? there are lots of angry broke enraged people with tinnitus out there. they’ve flamed my forums, they’ve threatened me, they’ve called my best efforts for helping “blood money” when i had a 1cent trial offer — and they’ve caused me an incredible amount of suffering and yes: tears. so, if you are angry, enraged, findcuretinnitus.org stupid, futile, hopeless, or wrong, please unsubscribe and don’t be in touch anymore. in a sense, i can honestly say “take your tinnitus and leave,” as “mean” as that may seem, people who solidly insist on remaining ill are really negative to have around and if you are one of those people: you scare me, please unsubscribe. if you are interested in the very best a group of therapists, doctors, and people who’ve healed themselves of tinnitus could do for you, to help, to save you money, to save you pain, then stay tuned and stick around. our process helps. a lot. yes, you might have to learn to deal with the pain before you can get better, and you might have to get a bit better before you can get a lot better, but there is a lot you can do and we can support you in your process.
Response from Q (who i have tried to block from the site and from my emails for over a year, and who still somehow gets through):
Dainis,As I mentioned to you before, I am almost healed…through laser….
Of course you can’t make money of that, so it is of no importance to you, but I thought I mention it again…Good luck with sucking money from the tinnitus people.Q
I wrote back:
thank you, are you ready to put your real name and picture under that response. i will gladly post your comments.sincerely,
dainis w michel
and received the following response from Q:
Despicable. In certain countries people would incarcerated for what you do.Bow out and don’t offer false hope to people who suffer from tinnitus.Get a job, asshole!
I am going to add a clause to my agreement for use of this website which will state that abusive language is grounds not only for dismissal, but for exposure. I wonder what further actions can be taken. The thing is, this interchange relates to tinnitus a lot.
Next is, I am not anonymous. In order to send mass emails, for example, I have to put my physical address into the form, however, frankly, is someone like “Q” actually dangerous — physically dangerous?
It’s a valid question and begins to explain why public figures sometimes find themselves receding, hiding — because of a few angry, violent, abusive souls who still somehow gain access to their targets.
There is nothing at all wrong with being dissatisfied with CureTinnitus.org or our program. I have done my absolute best with it and am open to input of all kinds.
How though, do I handle not only “people like Q,” but the consciousness he/she embodies?
Here is my response to Q:
i remember now trying to block you from my email, my servers, etc.i understand, malice, anger, fear, projection, blame — they often seek the shelter of anonymity but still need to be fed attention.
i am respecting your anonymity but do not wish to receive abusive communications. if you are willing to engage in mutually respectful public discourse using your real name and picture, then i am happy to continue discussion.
Here is another place where I slogged through the issues of receiving compensation for helping, as well as criticisms of CureTinnitus.org as such (and criticisms of me personally). Read at your own risk! http://www.dailystrength.org/c...innitusorg